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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Howard Schultz and the Ghost of Ross Perot

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Howard Schultz's potential independent presidential candidacy has gotten off to a rough start. Why are Democrats and Republicans alike upset about the Starbucks CEO entering the 2020 fray? And will it even matter?

Guest: Steve Kornacki, National Political Correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin


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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Steve.

0:06.5

Hey, Steve. It's Mary Harris. A slate. How are you?

0:09.4

Hey, Mary. How you doing?

0:10.9

Steve Kornacki has been called the King of Lickety Split political data analysis.

0:16.0

You can usually find him swiping through a big flat screen on MSNBC.

0:20.4

So when Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz set off a social media firestorm by dipping his toes

0:25.5

in the 2020 presidential race, I thought, Steve will know what to make of it.

0:30.2

Did you watch the heckling video last night?

0:32.4

Yeah, I was on late last night, so we saw the clip of it, yeah.

0:37.3

Well, I said last night, so we saw the clip of it, yeah.

0:44.6

Well, I said last night is that I am seriously considering running for president as a centrist independent.

0:50.1

If you haven't seen this tape, it shows Howard Schultz on a stage with the journalist Andrew Ross Sorkin,

0:54.7

trying to explain why he's considering running as a third-party presidential candidate. Which I view merely as a designation on the ballot.

0:59.1

And that's when a man standing at the back of the crowd just starts ripping into him.

1:03.0

Don't help elect Trump, you egotistical, billionaire.

1:09.6

You're sort of, you know, Barnes & Noble, New York City book event, you're sort of at the heart of, um, uh, we would call it resistance culture.

1:18.6

Go back to Dombo's with the other billionaire elite

1:22.6

who think they know how to run the world?

1:32.3

That's not what democracy is.

1:35.3

We're going to get to that idea and that sentiment in just a minute.

1:42.3

Because there is a lot on Twitter.

1:48.2

The 2020 presidential field is getting crowded.

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