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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Howard Lutnick: How America Can Hit 6% GDP Growth in 2026

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

Entrepreneurship, Technology, Business

4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick tells a hilarious Air Force One story

(2:24) Chamath intros Secretary Lutnick

(7:28) Full scope of the Commerce Department

(12:59) How Trump's tariff agenda was planned and executed, how it's going

(19:50) US-Japan trade deal, China's chaos-to-prowess strategy

(36:54) Why the India deal has not yet happened

(43:48) Pharma deals, lowering costs for Americans

(53:28) Focus on fraud, immigration, gold cards

(1:03:48) GDP: Could we see 5 or 6% growth in 2026?

(1:11:49) How the Trump Admin revamped the CHIPS Act, Nvidia deal

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Transcript

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0:00.0

What was the feeling the first time you're on Air Force One?

0:03.7

It's just...

0:04.4

Or Marine one.

0:05.1

Like, is there a special thing where you're just like, what is going on?

0:07.6

Yeah.

0:08.5

Yeah.

0:09.5

Yeah, when you're on these things, like, it's amazing.

0:14.4

Yeah.

0:14.8

Right?

0:15.3

You are where real conversations happen.

0:19.0

We went to see Putin.

0:23.4

So I get on Air Force One at 5 a.m.

0:26.1

He gets on at 5.45.

0:28.8

We fly to Alaska.

0:32.2

Right.

0:33.2

Right.

0:34.2

So we're talking about, then we're there for four hours with Putin, and then we fly back.

0:41.4

Now, Marco Rubio and Steve Wittkoff go take a nap because we have to wait for Zelensky to wake up.

0:48.0

It's called Zolinsky, and we have to wait for the European leaders to wake up, right, because it's the middle of the night.

0:52.3

So I stay up with the president.

1:11.7

And we're just chatting, like we're just chatting, watching golf. I mean, we're just, like it's a lot of hours. Yeah. So then Zelensky wakes up, so they get on the phone with Zelensky, and he talks to Zzlinski on his phone. And then when he calls the European leaders, when they get up, they want to have us only secure a call. So there's three secure handsets in his office. So he's on one,

1:20.1

Rubio's on one, and Whitkoff's on one, and I'm just sitting on the couch. This is in, in Air Force.

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