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A Book with Legs

Howard Gardner - Frames of Mind

A Book with Legs

Smead Capital Management

Investing, Business, Management

4.31.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Can an IQ test comprehensively define an individual’s intelligence? Are there aspects of human capability that tests fail to take into account?

In the latest episode of A Book with Legs, Smead Capital Management CEO and Portfolio Manager Cole Smead is joined by professor, psychologist, and author Howard Gardner to discuss his book, titled "Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligences.”

Cole and Howard explore how we measure and think about intelligence, highlighting that there is a spectrum of abilities beyond a single test score. They discuss the origins of intelligence testing, why an individual's role in society should not be conflated with their intelligence, and some of the less-often-considered forms of intelligence, such as musical and interpersonal skills intelligence.

Howard Gardner is the Hobbs Research Professor of Cognition and Education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. He is an expert on intelligence, creativity, leadership, and professional ethics; former Co-Director of Project Zero; and co-founder of The Good Project. Both a memoir (A Synthesizing Mind) and a study of higher education co-authored with Wendy Fischman (The Real World of College) were recently published by MIT Press. In 2024, Teachers College Press published a two-volume collection of his work, The Essential Howard Gardner on Mind and On Education.

An updated edition of his book Frames of Mind was published by Basic Books in Spring 2026 with a new preface. Purchase "Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligences” here: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/howard-gardner/frames-of-mind/9781541608528/?lens=basic-books

Visit Howard Gardner's Website and Blog - https://www.howardgardner.com

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0:00.0

You're listening to A Book with Legs, a podcast presented by Smead Capital Management.

0:07.7

At Smead Capital Management, we advise investors who play the long game.

0:12.4

You can learn more at Smeadcap.com or by calling your financial advisor.

0:20.5

Welcome to a book with legs podcast. I'm Cole Smead, CEO and portfolio manager here at Smead Capital Management.

0:27.1

At our firm, we are readers and we believe in the power of books to help shape informed investors.

0:32.5

In this podcast, we speak to great authors about their writings. The late great Charlie Munger prescribed using

0:38.1

multiple mental models and analysis. We analyze their work to the lens of business,

0:43.6

markets, and people. Today we will discuss the nature of human intelligence and how we come to

0:49.9

understand it. For most of the 20th century, intelligence was treated as a single number on a test,

0:54.3

what we know is IQ, for example. Our guests argued instead that human beings possess many

0:59.3

distinct intelligences, each with its own development path, its own biological foundation,

1:05.2

and its own cultural expression. Howard Gardner is joining us to discuss his groundbreaking

1:10.5

book, Frames of Mind,

1:12.4

the theory of multiple intelligences. A little background on Howard. He is the John H. and

1:18.9

Elizabeth A. Hobbs research professor of cognition and education at the Harvard Graduate School

1:25.1

of Education and a founding member of Harvard Project Zero.

1:28.8

He is the author of more than 30 books,

1:31.0

translated in over 30 languages,

1:32.9

and a recipient of the MacArthur Fellowship

1:34.5

and the first year of its existence,

1:36.5

as well as more than 30 honorary degrees

1:38.7

from institutions around the world.

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