Howard Blum & The Spy Who Knew Too Much

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

News, Education, Politics

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2022

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Ken breaks out his extensive Cold War spy knowledge in this conversation with journalist and New York Times best-selling author Howard Blum. They discuss his recently released book, The Spy Who Knew Too Much: An Ex-CIA Officer's Quest Through a Legacy of Betrayal. Formerly a reporter for the The Village Voice and the New York Times, Blum is a contributing editor at Vanity Fair. While at the Times, he was twice nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting. Topics Ken and Howard cover include: - the uses of intelligence - moles, traitors, spies - big moles vs little moles - the war within the CIA - Angleton, Golitsyn, and the "Monster Plot" - the suspicious "suicide" of CIA agent John Paisley - human vs signal intelligence - if human intelligence really matters - spying in the US/ Russia / Ukraine conflict - and lots more! Howard Blum on Twitter The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. Interested in starting your own podcast? Check out RedCircle, home of The Politics Guys. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You know what that is.
0:04.0	An ice cold beer.
0:07.0	What's different?
0:09.0	It's Budweiser, a perfect beer for party season.
0:14.0	Best enjoyed with your best buds.
0:20.0	Cheers to that
0:22.3	Budweiser
0:24.1	like no other
0:25.3	please drink responsibly for the facts
0:27.4	visit drinkaware.co.com.uker.
0:30.0	Twas the night before Christmas
0:32.0	went all through our home.
0:34.0	Friends were waiting for drinks
0:35.4	at the party we'd thrown
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0:58.3	Please enjoy responsibly.
1:01.0	Atheists, agnostics, long-haired widows, short-haired widows, vandal.
1:07.6	The government, the government, love the government, love the government, love the government. Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for a bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.
1:18.2	Today is a special episode where I, Ken Katkin, will be interviewing Howard Bloom, the author of the new book, The Spy, Who Knew Too Much.
1:27.2	This is a book about a particular Cold War
1:31.1	espionage mystery. And it's really sort of the story of two particular people. Pete Bagley,
1:38.6	who was a CIA agent in the Soviet bloc division became very caught up in the in the mole
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