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Howard Beck on the Jrue Holiday trade to Boston and the fallout from the Dame Trade

The Lowe Post

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4.77.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Zach and Howard Beck of The Ringer break down the Jrue Holiday trade to Boston, the potential Bucks-Celtics matchup, the Portland-Miami stand-off over Damian Lillard, James Harden's absence from Sixers media day, and much more. Recapping who and what went where the past week (2:53) State of the East (10:34) Jrue Holiday's fit in Boston (13:19) Best in the East (17:09) Clippers still looking for a guard (22:24) Celtics moving on from Robert Williams (30:07) Boston's financial future (39:16) Re-visiting the Dame deal to Miami that never happened (42:35) Joe Cronin is vindicated as a GM (49:54) How we got here with Dame (53:16) Embiid not happy (1:02:47) Draymond injury (1:11:21) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

And now the low welcome to the low post podcast. It's Monday morning, October 2nd. Holy smokes late September, usually just a bunch of guys who put on 15 pounds of muscle guys in the best shape of their lives coaches who are committed to running more this season players who are ready to step it up in a new role that boring media day stuff that's going to happen today.

0:26.0

Not in the year of our basketball gods 2023. We had a mega trade last week. Damien a little to the bucks. We already tackled that. It begot another mega trade. Drew holiday. Let us all remember the Drew holiday Portland era. It is now over Drew holiday plays for the Boston Celtics. That this trade may be get smaller little trades spreading all around Malcolm Brogdon still out there. Robert Williams will see James Hardin has to be throwing his own little private party at a club somewhere.

0:56.0

That the clippers who were in it in it to win it did not get Drew holiday. His preferred destination may be his only destination is still out there. What a week in the NBA and to help us sort it out. It's time with a new twist to say the three most anticipated words in niche basketball podcasting. What up back.

1:20.0

This is exciting for so many reasons not least of which is that I don't think I've ever gotten like a hyper active almost wheezing Zach day after hours after trade Zach like we usually have a nice contemplative you know mellow methodical discussion I don't think I've ever gotten you right in the wake of massive news so this is fun.

1:43.0

But as you're going through some of the pieces of this and we're thinking about where other things might spin off it reminded me did you want Bobby marks ever settle on whether these are tentacles or branches.

1:53.0

Because I think it's important for this discussion tentacles tentacles just sound more dangerous and there's a lot of tentacles you don't quite know where they're going to move.

2:01.0

No they have suction power on them. Howard Beck you now work for the ringer congratulations. Thank you sir very happy to be there.

2:10.0

You're your old boss my new boss there's a who reference in there somewhere I believe very happy thank you.

2:17.0

I got wind of this news before it broke but I knew I knew I had to wait for Kelly out coin dollar bill your personal friend apparently to break it on Twitter.

2:30.0

I'm not sure how you have not partly that into some inexplicable cameo on billions but you really missed a boat on that.

2:37.0

I'm apparently a Bomanie Jones was a better option in the sports media world because Bomanie popped on to billions on the most recent episode that was a fun fun little spot but no not not yet apparently time is running out for me because this is the last season.

2:53.0

Okay let's recap let's step back calm.

2:59.0

Here is what the Portland trailblazers after not negotiating with the Miami heat at all after summer league have acquired for Damien Lord.

3:11.0

Deandre Aiden. Robert Williams.

3:15.0

Tussani Kamara. Malcolm Braggden.

3:21.0

Three first round picks unprotected picks from the Celtics and Bucks in twenty twenty nine in the Warriors top four protected pick which is lived quite a life that pick has really seen a lot seen a lot of the world.

3:33.0

And two unprotected pick swaps from the Bucks in twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty when who knows what will be happening in the world or with the Bucks or whatever so that's five draft assets draft assets six if you count Kamara.

3:48.0

That's about what they would have gotten had they taken this theoretical heat offer at the highest level and frankly for all the belly aching coming out of South Florida.

3:59.0

It's on the heat if you want Damien Lillard to put forth your most aggressive offer if not from jump street then from the moment you sense that perhaps this is not going great for you and I'm not convinced they ever did that are in the close to it and maybe Portland and we will talk about this in this cold war this west coast east coast feud.

4:21.0

Northwest southeast maybe Portland was being a little you know little mean a little cold whatever but I there's no denying that they came out well here that they're bet on a everybody every contender give us your best stuff for a guy who could swing the championship race was going to net them more than Tyler hero.

4:42.0

And I think there's deals to be made for Brockton and Williams if they so choose they now have these two centers will see how that works in eight and and Williams maybe they get a sixth a seventh draft asset out of this and oh by the way their best draft assets are going to be their own picks that's the Portland angle you with me.

5:02.0

Okay yeah the Celtics in seldom do you see a team that is as much deep playoff success not not to win short of where they want to get and then a step back around back last year seldom do you see a team with that much success overhaul its roster in one off season to the degree that the Celtic set in the aggregate and we're going to fudge this a little bit to focus on.

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