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I'm in front of David Pierce, it's about 5.25 in the morning and I am out on a walk

with my eight-month-old son and my dog because somehow along the way they conspired and

colluded to decide that this is the time that we get up and go for a walk.

I would have picked a different time, but unfortunately I didn't get a vote.

So every morning we get up, Arthur has a snack and then naps an astrologer, free to sniffs

every leaf within eight miles of our house and I listen to podcasts.

So if you make an incredibly long and kind of wacky podcast, just know that I'm probably

listening and I love you for it.

Anyway, speaking of wacky podcasts, we have a great show for you today.

We're going to talk about sports, which we don't do a ton of on this show, but I think

at this moment in time, if you want to understand what's going on in streaming and maybe with

the future of entertainment in general, one good way to understand it is to look at a couple

of things going on in sports.

So we're going to dig in and see if we can figure out where all this is headed.

Then we're going to talk to Alex Winter, who you might know as an actor from the Bill

and Ted movies or as a director from things like The Deep Web and the Panama Papers.

He just directed a new documentary called The YouTube Effect, all about basically what

YouTube has done to the world, good and bad.

And he has some really interesting ideas and thoughts about where it's all headed.

So we're going to talk to him about that too.

All that is coming up in just a sec, but I think, yeah, Arthur just fell asleep in a

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