It's Friday, and this is the Ramsey Call of the Day, part of the Ramsey Network.

Well, my friend and neighbor Ian Kron dropped by at my request to talk about his hugely best-selling book, The Road, back to you.

An Enneagram Journey to Self-Discovery.

If you've not heard people talking about the Enneagram, probably because of this book, lately,

I don't know where you've been because it seems like everybody's talking about it everywhere.

Welcome in. Good to have you.

It's great to be with you. Thanks, Steve.

You know, you and I were talking about the other day when we were taping your podcast that

ever since I first saw the house or the disc or the strength finder stuff, some of that 30, 40 years ago was the first time I saw the stuff.

And I was just started, disc was starting to raise up and get everyone's attention to the point that we've got a disc profile on everyone's desk by there.

It's a part of their nameplate in the entire building.

So when I walk up to someone, D-I-S-C, I can kind of at least know how they're going to

function, how they're going to make decisions, how they're going to react, what, you know,

what some of the weak spots and strong spots are and so forth. And, you know, that, again, the Enneagram, I guess, gives us a tool to grow personally and know

what your natural strengths and weaknesses are, but also to do those others.

And then it takes us into this idea you're talking about of handling money.

So let's talk through the nine and how they handle money.

So the improver is a saver. Perfection is a saver. Yeah, I say that by nature, they're the money. So let's talk through the nine and how they handle money. So the improver is a saver.

Perfectionist is a saver.

Yeah, I say that by nature, they're the most financially responsible number on the

anagram.

Okay.

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