Welcome back to the podcast.

Before we get started, please be praying for Pastor John, who is right now in the midst

of a very busy ministry month here in January to start the year.

He began January, of course, preaching at the cross conference in Louisville.

A little later, he spoke at the G3 conference in Atlanta.

And now he prepares for the 2019 BCS pastor's conference on Christian joy.

That conference is here in Minneapolis.

It begins on Monday and ends on Wednesday.

So your prayer should be appreciated for him, for the organizers and everyone who will

be in attendance there.

Hope to see you there.

And with Pastor John tied up, we're joined this week by Pastor Tim Keller from New York

City to talk vocation and about his really helpful book, Every Good and Devere, connecting

your work to God's work.

I have a handful of questions to toss his way.

Admittedly, it's a bit scatter shot.

We'll talk to college graduates, we'll talk to parents, and we'll talk to Christians

who feel stuck in their jobs.

And I began by asking Dr. Keller, why does a biblical view of vocation seem so underdeveloped

in the lives of so many Christian workers today?

Well, I think it's probably because of the fact that the church doesn't have a uniform.

It's not a consensus view on how the church is supposed to relate to culture more generally.

...