All right, everyone. Welcome to Will in Amla Live. Again, Amla is not here. So it's just Will. But we do have a very special guest on the show Natalie Winters, who is a reporter for the National Poles. The National Poles is a website news organization that actually just recently I've been really getting into.

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Thank you so much for having me and so people probably they might have seen your articles or might have seen you on War Room. I was listening to War Room Steve Bannon show. This was a couple of months ago. And they said, oh, we're bringing Natalie Winters on and I was like, is this the same Natalie Winters that I knew like four years ago from Prager Force and then I heard you and I just shocked and I was like, it is the same Natalie Winters. So tell people a little bit about who you are and how you got to this position.

Sure, a lot has changed, I think, since we last spoke, but for people who don't know when I was in high school, so believe it or not, I am from Los Angeles, but somehow I managed to make it out as conservative. I was very involved in Prager Force. I was part of the student ambassador program. I remember I've been to your offices, your headquarters several times. I participated in a bunch of events got to meet some really, really amazing people yourself included through the program. And I really attribute a lot of the, I would say, I'm going to be a little bit more

successful, I would say, success that I've had in the room, journal was two my early days back when I was affiliated with Prager You. In the sense of the videos that I watch really helped me gain, I think, a theoretical and really philosophical understanding of a lot of the values that undergird my conservative beliefs because I'm sure as anyone who's listening right now knows you don't really get that in today's version of academia though it's barely that. But Prager You, I think, was really a

conservative experience for me. I know I met a lot of people who I still talk to today, but I'm still actually a college student, so I'm finishing up with the University of Chicago. I have about a year left, but concurrently while being a student, which I'm sure many people know, especially with COVID-19, it's not that hard to do your classes since it's all remote anyways. I've worked as an investigative reporter for an outlet called the National Fools, focusing primarily on how the Chinese Communist Party really is.

In full traits and just gets their evil, evil hands into every aspect in every corner of American society from academia to media, even to our politicians. And through that, I've been fortunate to go on a lot of different shows like you mentioned War Room, I frequent, but I really try to focus on just this corruption that I think one sees every single day very blatantly going on in Washington, DC all through the beltway all across this country.

And my thesis, my theory of the case is that the Chinese Communist Party is responsible for a lot of it.

Amen to that. Yeah, I was looking at, I sent this to you the other day, I was looking at old pictures from like five years ago when I was still in college and you, I guess you were in high school still and I was like, wow, like how far we've come since then. I know I look much better back then. I've gone fat now too. So it's all gone worse.

But getting it, I mean, to be an investigative journalist while you're still in college and especially to the degree that you're doing it, I mean, these are massive geopolitical issues that take a lot of research. It's not just something where you see a Twitter headline and write something up about it on your website. Like this is, this is a big deal. If you, especially if you guys watching have seen any of the articles that she's done or national polls have done, like these are, these are real investigative things. How did you get into to being someone accomplishing that and not just another kind of run of the mill type of, you know, college journalist.

Yeah, well, I think part of it was my kind of personal aversion to what journalism has become today and I don't just mean the typical critique that you hear that journalism is all about, you know, just fitting in a gen pushing an agenda, trying to make a narrative, but I think, especially on the conservative side of media, there are a lot of people who go into politics, go into media with the intent to know right off ads and share their opinions and their feelings. And for me, I just didn't really like that style of journalism because I think,

there was just such a wide open for lack of a better word market for true investigative reporting. And I'm sure we'll get into all the ways that Beijing has compromised a lot of America's top, although we use that word lightly, top journalists.

So I was very fortunate, although much to I would say the the detriment of the country that there really really was a wide open field for journalists who wanted to focus on the Chinese Communist Party and how they really exploit and subvert all aspects of America all the way from kindergarten classrooms to college classrooms to, you know, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

So that was how I really got into it because like I said, no one else was doing it. And I've been fortunate to have worked for a war room, which is Steve Bannon's podcast before I ever started doing media publicly.

And just through listening to his show and really being an adherent to his worldview and I'll even say I grew up listening to Dennis Prager's radio show.

I think I was blessed to really understand the critical point that we are at right now in terms of Western civilization and really the future of the West. And I think so many of these questions related to civil liberties freedom, heck, even the ability to just, you know, go outside your house and go to the supermarket.

If you don't have 18 vaccines and 12 boosters, a lot of this debate, this dilemma, these I think this fundamental erosion of the freedoms that, you know, I've grown up and have very fortunate to have, but we're kind of seeing slip away right now. I think that there's really, really a close relationship between that development, that trend.

And the Chinese Communist Party's continued rise and ascension on the global stage. So that was why I thought it was worthy of focusing on it. I'm very glad that I did.

I find anyone who listened to Dennis Prager as a kid always does well in their life. Dennis Prager's.

Pro tip. Yes.

Yeah. Pro tip. If you have kids, make them listen to Dennis Prager's happiness. All right. I'll change their life. But I mean, you bring up an interesting point. I think you're exactly right. I see this with the conservative space, the conservative new space or even the, you know, Republican.

Political stuff with it's so much about just making a name for yourself or writing what's easy and not actually going out there and doing digging and finding the truth. You know, I put out a post just a couple days ago that I had you review actually about China and the Beijing Olympics and how America should boycott these Olympics.

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