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How will Carney take on Trump?

Power Play

POLITICO

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

One hundred days into Donald Trump’s second presidency and he’s already swung another election. How will Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, emboldened by his victory at the polls, take on Trump? Host Anne McElvoy talks to Ralph Goodale, who has been at the centre of Canadian politics for several decades and now holds one of the country’s top diplomatic posts as High Commissioner to the U.K. A former finance minister, he has served in the cabinets of three Liberal prime ministers from Jean Chrétien to Justin Trudeau between 1993 and 2019. She's also joined by Nick Taylor-Vaisey, POLITICO’s Ottawa bureau chief and Playbook author. He’s been covering one of the most eventful election campaigns in recent Canadian history. Senior Producer: Peter Snowdon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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President Trump is trying to break us so that America can own us.

0:06.0

That will never, that will never, ever happen.

0:10.0

A hundred days into Donald Trump's second presidency,

0:16.0

and already he swung another election.

0:19.0

How will Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney emboldened by his victory at the polls take

0:24.5

on Trump?

0:29.5

Welcome to PowerPlay and my guest this week has been at the centre of Canadian politics

0:35.6

for several decades.

0:37.4

Now he holds one of the country's top diplomatic posts.

0:41.5

Ralph Goodall is the Canadian High Commissioner in the UK,

0:44.5

a former finance minister he served in the cabinets

0:48.0

of three Liberal Prime Ministers from Jean-Cretien to Justin Trudeau

0:52.7

between 1993 and 2019.

0:56.7

I'll also be joined by Nick Taylor-Vezy, Politico's Ottawa Bureau Chief and Playbook author.

1:02.7

He's been covering one of the most eventful election campaigns in recent Canadian history,

1:07.3

so we'll be getting his insider take a bit later on.

1:11.5

But first,

1:14.5

High Commissioner Ralph Godal, welcome to Power Play.

1:15.9

Oh, very nice to be here.

1:21.3

You're a true veteran of Canadian politics who were first elected to Canadian House of Commons. In 1974, that was when Pierre Trudeau was Prime Minister. Have you seen a comeback quite like this one, when only a few

1:30.3

months when I was around Canada, a liberal collapse seemed like a foregone conclusion?

1:35.6

This, I think, is absolutely unprecedented in Canadian politics for the governing party to have

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