I would love to talk to you about how you transition out of traditional medicine with so much debt.

Because finances, or like thereof, is the main barrier as to why I am not even beginning to make

any moves at all. My husband is in charge of my finances. And every time I raise a question of

changing my path or changing my work lifestyle, he discourages me and says we cannot afford it and tells me not to move. Can you help me, please? Do y'all want me to be responsible, doctor me, or should I be toxic me? You know what? Surgeon's choice. Because you know what? I did not know so many different people listened to this show. I told you I walked into the post office

and Mr. Evans was like, yo, I listened to your show. And I was like, oh! I'm not going to lie, guys. Like, I'm not like this, like, personally. Like, off the show. But... What you're about to say? Because it's a lie. whatever it is you're about to say it's a lie.

What do you think?

There are people who I know who will be like, you, I listen to the show. And I'm like, it's scary sometimes. So I'm like, should I be the responsible one and answer this the way that like a responsible person should answer this? Or should I be the toxic person and be very toxic and be like, yo, why is he handling all your finances?

All right.

We got another question that we have to answer.

And it is discrimination and residency and pursuing locums.

Can we even say this right now?

Because, you know.

What?

Hi, Dr. Ney and Dr. Renee.

How are you both doing? Are you taking phone calls while we're doing this podcast? Yes. Long time listener of the show. See, this is what I'm talking about, man.

Jimmy. Jimmy! That's my student. I truly enjoy every moment of wisdom you two share. It's been

inspiring and motivating, especially for someone

like me. I have a question for both of you. As a non-traditional pre-med, whose black and Haitian descent,

have either of you experienced any form of discrimination? Why are you whispering? Directly or indirectly

from your peers during your pre-med journey, medical school, or as attendings.

And if so, how did you handle it, yo? My second question is for Dr. Ray...

Yeah, Dr. Renee, say it.

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