How We Got Better (Episode 003)
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
4.9 • 665 Ratings
🗓️ 30 March 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Join Josh and Drew as they share their own experiences of anxiety recovery and what it means to get better when you're struggling with an anxiety disorder. Common themes in this episode include:
- Eliminating avoidance
- Choosing to willfully tolerate anxiety and the sensations/thoughts that come with it
- Learning that you are capable of handling how you feel - even when highly anxious
- Defining what it means to "get better" from an anxiety disorder
The guys also share listener victories and answer a question or two from the audience.
For more information about Josh, Drew and the Disordered podcast, visit us on the web at https://disordered.fm
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| 0:00.0 | Getting anxious is not a sign of being ill. |
| 0:09.0 | Before I even got to the driving, I had to learn how to get dressed and brush my teeth and comb my hair while I was having a panic attack. |
| 0:17.0 | But how to get better was learning what was happening in my brain, learning that a lot of this was adrenaline and cortisol, |
| 0:24.6 | learning about how the threat response works, and just doing it again, doing simple things, but being kind to myself. |
| 0:32.6 | This often sounds like a very simplistic thing, and in many ways it is, but simple doesn't mean easy. |
| 0:39.1 | Realizing that despite this being really uncomfortable and really scary, I can tolerate it without avoiding. |
| 0:47.1 | Yeah, that's part of what getting better was for me. |
| 0:53.7 | Welcome to the Disordid Podcast. |
| 0:56.0 | I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh, |
| 0:58.9 | and I'm a psychotherapist specializing in anxiety disorders, |
| 1:02.6 | and I'm based in the UK. |
| 1:05.0 | And I am Drew Lin Salada. |
| 1:06.5 | I am a graduate student and therapist in training in the U.S., New York specifically. |
| 1:32.9 | This is episode three of the Disordered Podcasts. We're going to talk about how Josh and I overcame our anxiety problems. What did we do? Do we get better? How difficult it is. So it should be a pretty good one. But stick around to the end of the episode because at the end of every episode, we answer a question and we share some wins. So you don't want to hang around to that. Yeah. Can to hang right there we put each other on the spot as well asking questions that we uh that we haven't pre-rehearsed either so you can see our anxiety and follow yes it's completely unscripted so how did |
| 1:40.9 | we get better i'm guessing you get asked this all the time how what is your recovery how did you get better? I'm guessing you get asked this all the time. |
| 1:46.1 | What is your recovery? |
| 1:46.9 | How did you get better? |
| 1:47.8 | What did you do? |
| 1:48.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:57.2 | First of all, the most important stipulation to this is that getting anxious is not a sign of being ill. |
| 2:04.4 | You know, getting better is realizing that anxiety is normal, but losing my fear of it and turning off my threat response in relation to anxiety was a big one for me. So I'm someone |
| 2:13.9 | who struggled with panic attacks, with avoidance, with intrusive thoughts, |
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