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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

How We Became Shutdown Nation

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

How could congressional leaders end the current government shutdown? Come to think of it, how could they put an end to shutdowns altogether? Guests: Tom Davis, former Republican congressman from Virginia, and Slate’s Jim Newell. Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show. Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When was the last time you were in DC?

0:07.2

I'm here now.

0:08.2

I mean, I'm sitting here now and...

0:10.2

When I talked to Tom Davis, he had just had a diet coke for breakfast.

0:13.9

I feel like you can hear it in his voice.

0:16.4

That jangly energy.

0:18.1

And I was up on the house on opening day.

0:19.9

I was but went over to a state over on the Republican side for a good chunk of it and went

0:23.5

over to the Democratic side just to talk to people watching the roll call.

0:27.6

Tom Davis is an old Washington hand.

0:30.2

He was in Congress for over a decade, a Republican representing Northern Virginia.

0:34.3

I still have four privileges.

0:36.3

I'm not lobbying.

0:38.3

And I just had to go up to four.

0:40.1

It's an exciting day.

0:41.1

You had a lot of new members coming in and it was just an exciting place to be.

0:44.0

I remember my first day in Congress in 1995.

0:46.0

And for a lot of these young Democrats, they've taken back the house.

0:49.7

There's that excitement.

0:50.7

I mean, you can't beat it outside of maybe a World Series game.

0:53.6

So it's exciting for you even when the other side wins?

0:56.8

Oh, yeah, I mean, again, I mean, it's the longer you leave this, you're not a partisan anymore.

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