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The Brian Lehrer Show

How Viktor Orbán's Defeat is Reverberating in the White House

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Eli Stokols, White House and foreign affairs correspondent at Politico, talks about the politics of Viktor Orbán's election defeat and the implications for the White House and MAGA world.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lear Show on WNYC.

0:13.2

I'm Amina Cerna, a producer for the Brian Lair Show, filling in for Brian today.

0:18.1

Coming up on today's show, how last summer's Republican budget bill might lead to

0:23.3

450,000 people losing health coverage in New York.

0:28.5

People who are on the state's essential plan received notices that they would lose coverage

0:33.4

on July 1st.

0:35.1

Now there are proposals in Albany to try to mitigate the effects through the state

0:39.3

budget, but nothing is set yet. Plus, we'll talk to New Yorker reporter Sarah Stillman about her

0:46.3

reporting on how children in ICE custody are being harmed. And we'll wrap today's show with a

0:52.3

conversation about affordability in our high cost of living area.

0:57.4

And we'll want to hear from you on what do you splurge on and what do you scrimb on to make it work.

1:03.3

But first, we begin with Vice President J.D. Vance and his involvement in Victor Orban's campaign for Prime Minister of Hungary.

1:13.0

The vice president campaigned alongside the autocrat in Budapest last week, but Orban was ultimately

1:18.8

defeated by the opposition party, led by Peter Magyar, a conservative.

1:23.9

Isaac Stanley Becker writes for the Atlantic,

1:26.4

"...Seldom have American leaders intervened so overtly in a foreign election and seldom has their preferred candidate fared so badly. Orban has been in office since 2010, making him the longest serving head of government in the European Union. And in addition to closely aligning

1:45.5

with the, in addition to closely aligning the Hungarian government with Russia, Orban has become

1:51.9

closely aligned with President Donald Trump and his MAGA movement. As the New York Times puts it,

1:58.9

MAGA has long shared DNA with Orban's brand of right-wing politics.

2:04.1

Both take a hard line anti-immigration stance.

2:07.3

Both have attempted curbing press freedoms.

2:10.3

And both movements are raising the alarm on falling birth rates of who they see as their native populations.

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