Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mate.

Joining me is Simone Mangante Papadopoulos.

She is an attorney, a former EU legal advisor, and the lead interviewer on the new documentary

film, Ukraine, The Everlasting Present, which is the third in the trilogy that began with the Oliver Stone produced film,

Ukraine on Fire, recently censored by YouTube. This is a bit of the trailer of Ukraine, the everlasting present.

How much of the modern Ukraine is controlled by the United States? I think that the United States.

I think that the West doesn't

not any of the greatest dramas of the 20th century.

I never thought that could be in life.

That's the same thing.

What is the same thing. I all of the Ukrainians with the

Pazniquing.

Simone, thank you for joining me.

Thank you so much for having me.

So tell us about this documentary that you took part in.

You went to Ukraine, interviewed key political figures.

What are you trying to accomplish with this film that has just been released?

We try to understand actually the history of Ukraine from the Declaration of Independence for the Soviet Union

and make an overall assessment of the results of these independence was really independent or this geopolitical strategic position where the West meet to the East made of it a sort of flying states to leverage Russian influence on the West. This was the key question we dig into in the course

of the documentary, which walks the audience through the critical and crucial events that

unfortunately resulted in a war today with Russia. I didn't know obviously last summer that

the outcome would be that tragic, but definitely help people understanding

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