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The Global Story

How Ukraine won a battle with robots alone

The Global Story

BBC

Daily News, News

3.8663 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

For the first time in history a country has apparently won a battle using only robots, without a soldier on the ground put at risk. Ukraine claims to have recently taken over a Russian position – forcing Russian soldiers to surrender – using robotic systems alone.

President Zelensky has been asking the world for help to fight Russia since the full-scale invasion began in 2022. But in the years since, Ukraine has revolutionised the technology of warfare with battlefield robots and drones, and now other countries are turning to it for its technology and expertise.

We speak to the journalist and defence expert Mark Urban about how Ukraine went from needy to needed.

Producers: Lucy Pawle and Viv Jones Executive producer: Richard Fenton-Smith Mixed by: Travis Evans Senior news editor: China Collins

Photo: The "ASLAN" unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) is tested during a NATO exercise in Germany, February 20, 2026. Photo by: Liesa Johannssen/Reuters

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.2

There's this unbelievable video I saw recently from the front lines of the war in Ukraine.

0:11.8

In it, you see these three Russian soldiers crawl out of a hiding place, arms up, fear on their faces.

0:18.4

And they walk towards a camera and surrender on the snowy ground.

0:23.6

But they're not surrendering to a Ukrainian soldier, or, in fact, to a soldier of any sort.

0:29.5

They're surrendering to a robot.

0:32.2

It was, according to the Ukrainians, the first time in history that an enemy position was captured solely

0:38.9

by a battlefield robot, without putting a single soldier at risk. And a sign of how Ukraine

0:46.9

has become a leader in the robot wars. For the last few years, Ukraine has been pleading

0:52.8

with the world, asking for help in its fight against Russia.

0:56.8

Now, Ukraine finds other countries asking it for drone and tech help.

1:03.1

From the BBC, I'm Asma Khalid, and today on the global story, inside the robot war revolution that turned Ukraine from needy to needed.

1:19.9

I'm going to be straight up here at the outset. The war and the technology of war is not

1:25.1

something that I am an expert on. But having seen that video, I was struck when I heard the U.S. Army Secretary Dan Driscoll

1:31.9

recently speak in glowing terms about the Ukrainian army.

1:35.8

They have fundamentally altered how humans engage in conflict.

1:39.9

They have done an absolutely amazing job of innovating.

1:43.5

And what struck me more was that he seemed to imply that the U.S. armed forces were actually learning from Ukraine.

1:50.0

We are learning a lot from them and we are changing to a lot of the lessons that they have taught us.

1:55.0

It turns out the U.S. is not the only country being taught a thing or two by Ukraine.

1:59.0

I think we're coming to a point where Europe, the West, the United States, the Gulf states,

2:06.6

they need Ukraine more than Ukraine needs us.

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