The App Store rating, Jeff, was it 1.8?

1.8. And remember, one star is the minimum. So it's really 0.8 is the rating on the ad.

And how are you doing 100 million of revenue and 45 million of profit with a 1.8 star rating?

So we look at this and we just see opportunities.

Basically. and we just see opportunity. Basically, how we got here was Sean and I were talking about Grindr, I think, last

month and how there was like this amazing story behind it, and we found out that you

were the two guys who bought it and took a public and made it this home run.

But Sean is good friends with James Currier. Rick, I've had a bunch of run-ins with you early on in my career. And then same with you, Jeff. And we were like, we got to get these guys on. Because you guys have been a little bit behind the scenes. You don't talk that much. You're just kind of quietly behind the scenes. But you've had some major successes. And like, I thought it would be cool to like kind of give you a

platform and like tell the story because I don't think you guys have told a lot of these stories

publicly, maybe ever, have you? Not a lot. No, we, we've done a couple here or there, but no,

we have not been out there publicly and talked about what we did at Grindr, but we're happy to

today. So let's do story time. How did you two guys we did at Grindr, but we're happy to today.

So let's do story time. How did you two guys end up owning Grindr? What is the story of Grindr before you? And then how did you guys get involved and what happened afterwards? I want to hear

the Grindr story. Grindr was created, founded by a guy named Joel Simkai about 15 years ago.

And Joel is a gay man who wanted the ability to create an app to find other gay men GPS enabled. Kind of like Uber, right? Uber

really existed once the iPhone became ubiquitous and people could, you know, see where you are.

That proximity became, you know, really tight.

So he created Grindr. Grindr took off and he ended up selling it to a Chinese company called Kunlin.

And then a few years later, Siphyas, the Committee for Foreign Investment in the U.S., forced the sale of Grindr.

Okay. So they were worried that the data that Grindr was collecting

could be used for, you know, in negative ways by the Chinese ownership. Was that first sale a big

sale? Like, was Grindr considered like a big success at the time? Because I know some of the

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