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The Lincoln Project

How Tucker Carlson Lost His Mind: From Fox News Star to Conspiracy King

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Rick sits down with Jason Zengerle to dissect Hated by All the Right People, a scalpel-sharp look at how Tucker Carlson morphed from bow-tied conservative pundit into the high priest of grievance politics. They trace the Iraq War as the inflection point that cracked the old GOP brain, Tucker’s Fox News era where outrage became currency, and his post-Fox glow-up as a free-range chaos entrepreneur feeding the MAGA algorithm. But this isn’t nostalgia — it’s about consequences. As a new war with Iran explodes into missile and drone retaliation this weekend, Rick and Jason connect the dots between right-wing media radicalization, foreign policy brinkmanship, and the profit model that rewards escalation over truth. Tucker didn’t just witness the unraveling of the conservative mind — he built a business on it. And as 2026 approaches, the rage machine he helped engineer isn’t just warping politics — it’s shaping global stakes.





You can find Jason Zengerle on X @zengerle, and as a staff writer for the New Yorker. His book, ‘Hated by All the Right People’ is available now, wherever fine books are sold.

Rick Wilson is on X at @TheRickWilson, on Bluesky at @TheRickWilson.bsky.social, and you can check out Rick's Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. You can check out more of LP's work at www.lincolnproject.us and on X at @ProjectLincoln. 

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Tucker Carlson and this is Do You Trust Me?

0:09.0

Your task will not be an easy one.

0:11.0

Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battle-hardt.

0:15.0

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.

0:19.0

There is the United States of America.

0:23.9

Good night and good luck.

0:26.2

Hey, folks, it's Rick Wilson.

0:27.4

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast.

0:29.1

I'm your host, as always.

0:30.7

And I am delighted to be joined today by Jason Zingerly, who is the author of a book called

0:36.3

Hated by All the Right People.

0:38.3

And it's an unauthorized biography of Tucker Carlson, one of the most divisive, intriguing, weird, horrible figures in this landscape of ours that has been reshaped so fundamentally in the era of Fox News, in the era of social

0:56.0

media. And Tucker Carlson is a sort of of Zellig on the American right. For those of you're not

1:03.5

old enough to remember Zellig, go look it up. Zellig, though, was a guy who was always around.

1:08.3

And I knew Tucker back as early as the 90s in D.C.

1:11.8

And he was always sort of a jolly kind of nihilist guy on the right.

1:16.2

He wasn't really particularly hot ideologically.

1:19.5

He was a player.

1:20.8

He was an interesting guy.

1:22.2

He liked making money.

1:23.4

He was kind of a fun figure.

1:25.5

And he's transformed into something much, much different.

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