This is the intersection of faith and culture. Thanks for joining us today on the Wall Builders

Show. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. And the guys are still in D.C. doing that

pastor's briefing. What a great opportunity for folks to send their pastor to a pastor's briefing.

You got another chance to do that

later in the year. Check out wallbuilders.com for more information on that one. And David and Tim,

how does it feel being in D.C. compared to, oh, I don't know, year ago, two years ago,

especially four years ago, a much better trip this time around, I'm thinking.

Well, it's a lot better in a whole lot of ways,

not the least of which is just talking to the congressman

and seeing the changes going in them.

Some of these guys, we've known for a number of years,

but they've really talked about the fact,

even as I was talking with some just before the program,

that in the last two classes of congressmen that have come in

they're so much more focused so much more pointed on changing the country and getting back

right not just being a congressman and being up here but they came up here with a purpose and

they've come with an intent and they were talking about how the that in the conference and

the conference is when all the republicans get together so mike johnson leads that and they're talking

about what they're going to do with budget items over with the senate and in the conference it is such a

different ball game now because they are really trying to do some principled things and trying to get

the ship turned the right direction. So I think that's really, really good. And I've heard that now

from a number of congressmen over the last day or two. Well, that one of the things, too,

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