How Trump’s Insurrection Act Threat is Backfiring
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🗓️ 18 January 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | He doesn't really care what it makes him look like. Are all of the headlines about him? If they are about him, they are about nobody else. Now, this is a curious moment, which is why he has to ramp this up, because the headlines are also about this poor woman. |
| 0:17.2 | Renee Nicole Good. How does he get away from that? Trump, again, just the opposite. |
| 0:23.5 | Let's not walk this back at all. Let's double down. Let's have the headlines about the |
| 0:28.5 | Insurrection Act rather than about this poor woman. Michael. Joanna. |
| 0:39.9 | Hard to be flippant on a morning like this. |
| 0:42.1 | We always try to be cheerful, |
| 0:47.0 | but it does seem that the situation in Minneapolis is getting worse, |
| 0:50.4 | that there's a lot of provocation going on, |
| 0:52.9 | and it's unnerving. |
| 0:57.4 | You know, once again, Minneapolis is ground ground zero and I think that that may not be coincident you know I think that the Trump people the MAGA people |
| 1:07.0 | for them Black Lives Matter has always been a particular, I almost insult to them. |
| 1:23.6 | And not only that, but I think a point of conflict that they've found that they've, that has been very useful to them. |
| 1:33.2 | These kinds of conflicts with, with what they consider the left in whatever iteration, |
| 1:46.4 | black left, white left, it doesn't make any difference, |
| 1:49.9 | I think is a thing that goes to the heart of MAGA |
| 1:55.6 | and the heart of what they believe gives them their identity. |
| 2:02.6 | And so I think that they, that they're finding this at, at this point, this is a fight that they want to have, which is awfully scary. |
| 2:16.6 | And, and, and I think, well, let's go back to ground zero. |
| 2:25.0 | This is, this is fundamental. |
| 2:28.6 | And then this idea of extending this, and there's no back down on their part, which is the other extraordinary thing. |
| 2:36.6 | I mean, this terrible thing has happened. |
| 2:38.8 | A woman lost her life in, at best, highly ambiguous circumstances. |
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