How Trump's central bank beef could hurt the economy
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🗓️ 14 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. |
| 0:11.5 | This is the indicator from Planet Money. |
| 0:13.6 | I'm Adrienne Ma. |
| 0:15.1 | New data this week from the Consumer Price Index shows inflation rising 3.8% over the past year. That is the highest inflation rate |
| 0:24.4 | we've seen since 2023. And it's happening at a time when the nation's main inflation fighting |
| 0:30.0 | institution, the Federal Reserve, is getting a shake-up in leadership. On Friday, Fed Chair Jerome |
| 0:36.4 | Powell will be replaced by President Trump's new pick, |
| 0:39.2 | Kevin Warsh. And as a new documentary by Frontline PBS explains, this is a milestone in Trump's |
| 0:45.6 | long beef with the Fed. Economically, this is the most important fight of the second Trump administration. |
| 0:51.9 | If I want him out, he'll be out of there real fast. |
| 0:54.0 | This agency feels it is not under any obligation to be accountable. |
| 0:58.0 | Frontline correspondent James Jacoby directed the film, |
| 1:01.0 | which is called the President versus the Fed. |
| 1:04.0 | After the break, he shares what he learned while reporting |
| 1:07.0 | on this unprecedented power struggle between the world's most powerful politician |
| 1:11.6 | and the world's most powerful bank. |
| 1:17.2 | James Jacoby is director of the new frontline documentary, The President versus the Fed. |
| 1:22.3 | James, thanks for being here. |
| 1:24.2 | Thank you so much for having me. |
| 1:25.7 | For this film, you spoke to economists, Wall Street big |
| 1:28.8 | wigs, the business press. And what strikes me across all these different kinds of people is there |
| 1:34.0 | seems to be a very strong respect for the Federal Reserve, which is not to say that everybody |
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