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Here & Now Anytime

How Trump is using the DOJ as his personal law firm

Here & Now Anytime

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🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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President Trump is using the full force of the presidency to go after critics and people he believes are criminals. Law professor Kim Wehle talks about the implications of Trump's push to use the attorney general as his own personal lawyer. Then, Trump has suggested that Chicago could be the next U.S. city where he deploys National Guard troops after doing so in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C. The Chicago Sun-Times' Tina Sfondeles gives more context. And, an undocumented teen is trying to get an education at a Bronx school for immigrants as the Trump administration amps up ICE actions. Chalkbeat reporter Michael Elsen-Rooney tells us more.

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0:00.0

It's been 20 years since Hurricane Katrina, and the StoryCorps podcast is bringing you the voices of those who lived through it.

0:07.0

We hear the door blow open like a cannon shot.

0:11.0

The water was up to my waist, and I heard fear in my dad's voice.

0:16.6

Hear the eyewitness accounts of the survivors.

0:19.2

Some recorded only weeks after, on the StoryCorps podcast from NPR.

0:25.1

WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

0:29.3

We are careening towards a monarchy, not just squinting towards a monarchy.

0:35.9

President Trump is using his powers to go after critics and criminals

0:40.4

from former advisors to even those accused of minor crimes.

0:51.0

It's Monday, August 25th, and this is Here and Now Anytime.

0:55.7

From NPR and WBUR Boston, I'm Ashley Locke, in for Chris Bentley.

1:04.1

Today on the show, after troops hit the ground in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., President Trump suggests Chicago could be the next city where he deploys the National Guard.

1:16.1

And, as the school year gets underway, we hear about the journey of an undocumented student trying to get an education in New York.

1:24.5

They're working with students like Bridget to help her find housing, to see a therapist

1:29.7

for kind of growing mental health challenges.

1:33.1

But first, President Trump is expanding his, quote, tough on crime strategy.

1:39.0

Today he signed two executive orders.

1:41.9

One goes after people for burning the American flag. The other takes

1:46.5

aim at cashless bail. These actions come as Trump also lashes out at former advisors, Chris Christie and

1:54.6

John Bolton. Kim Whaley is a law professor at the University of Baltimore. She spoke with Robin Young about the president's

2:02.1

push to use the Justice Department for his own political purposes.

2:06.4

And we're just going to start by dipping our toe in this argument over how much power

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