it would be consistent with this administration's other policies if part of the rationale was to

erode the foundations of black mobility, to erode the foundation of the accumulation of

black wealth and opportunity, social, political, economic. And the more that you decimate the sort of ecosystem of black soldiers and black officers within the military,

I think the more you decimate an institution that is served as a mechanism for people to move up socially across generations.

Thank you. socially across generations. I'm Jane Koston, and this is one today, the show that's wishing you a happy Juneteenth.

I am not at work today because it's Juneteenth.

And that's the point of Juneteenth.

Thanks for making us a part of your holiday.

We've got a great conversation for you.

Juneteenth has a holiday to celebrate the end of slavery in the United States

and the emancipation of millions of black Americans held in human bondage.

People like my great-great-grandparents.

Their grandson, my grandfather,

Oscar Koston, served his country during World War II as part of a segregated unit that landed on Omaha Beach during D-Day. He won two bronze stars, but always felt as if his country never

respected what he sacrificed. Today, nearly 80 years since the U.S. military was

officially desegregated, 20% of the armed forces are black. But since President Donald Trump

returned to the White House, the administration has made it crystal clear that black service

members are not to be treated with respect. And while many have made the decision to leave the military, others have decided to stay.

So to talk about the impact the Trump administration has had on black members of the military,

I spoke to Clint Smith. He's a staff writer at the Atlantic.

Clint, welcome to what today.

It's good to be here.

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