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I'm Caleb Brown.

How has this president changed comedy?

Has it gotten more lazy or is it just too hurt? How has this president changed comedy?

Has it gotten more lazy, or is it just too Herculean a task

to be smart and poking fun at someone who at times

appears to be a caricature of himself.

Andrew Heaton is a comedian and host of the Something's Off

Podcast.

We spoke last week.

I can remember in the Obama years, Saturday Night Live had several really brilliant

cold opens that poked fun at Democrats and you would think well you know that that's it's good for this you know

fairly left-wing comedy show to to make fun of Democrats.

Joe Biden was portrayed as this really outlandish, Jason Sudakis was Joe Biden.

And Obama leaves the White House, so it's Biden time, according to him. And he makes all these outlandish promises.

Another cold open, Barack Obama goes to China and through an interpreter, the president of China is insulting Barack Obama like screaming at him,

but the interpreter is trying to emote in the same way that the speaker was. And I thought a lot of those are super creative and

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