So I said, wait, the Epstein ballroom, that's what you're calling it?

And he was kind of sheepish at that moment.

But then he said, well, you know, it has come up more than a few times.

Michael.

Joanna.

So much to discuss, not least Prince Andrew, which I know we are going to come on and discuss.

So much for our political improvisation today.

But I have a good one.

I can't even hold my tongue here.

So I don't want me to talk over you because now I talk over you rather than you talk

over me.

Go on.

Go on.

So I had this conversation just the other day, the day before yesterday, so with somebody, a White House circle person, a person in the middle of all of this.

And we're just talking, I mean, this is a person I've gotten to know over quite a long period of time.

So we're quite friendly.

And it was just catching up.

And suddenly this person just sort of going over what is what's happening in his world, just to say, Trump world.

And he referred to something called

the Epstein Ballroom.

The Epstein. Without prompting for me.

So I said, wait, the Epstein ballroom.

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