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How Trump’s answers about his fallout with Epstein have evolved

PBS News Hour - Segments

PBS NewsHour

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41K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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As pressure continues for President Trump to release files related to Jeffrey Epstein, the president’s evolving answers about his relationship with Epstein, and why it ended, have raised more questions. Amna Nawaz discussed more with Julie Brown of the Miami Herald. Brown’s reporting in 2017 and 2018 led to sex trafficking charges against Epstein and identified nearly 80 of his victims. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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As pressure continues for President Trump to release files related to Jeffrey Epstein,

0:05.5

the president's evolving answers about his relationship with Epstein and why it ended have raised more questions.

0:12.1

Joining us now is investigative reporter Julie Brown of the Miami Herald.

0:16.5

She's the author of the book, Perversion of Justice, the Jeffrey Epstein story.

0:20.5

And it was Brown's reporting

0:21.9

in 2017 and 18 that led to sex trafficking charges against Epstein and identified nearly 80 of his

0:28.5

victims. Julie Brown, welcome to the News Hour. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me.

0:32.9

So it's no secret that President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein knew each other. There's videos and

0:37.4

photos confirming

0:38.2

all of that. It was previously reported it was a real estate deal that led to their falling

0:43.2

out in 2004. President Trump has talked about Jeffrey Epstein being a creep, and that's the reason

0:48.7

he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. But on Air Force One on Tuesday, the president offered this

0:53.9

explanation for why their friendship

0:55.8

ended.

0:56.7

And people were taken out of the spa, hired by him.

1:00.5

In other words, gone.

1:02.6

And other people would come and complain.

1:05.5

This guy is taking people from the spa.

1:08.1

I didn't know that.

1:08.9

And then when I heard about it, I told him.

1:11.2

I said, listen, we don't want you taking our people.

1:14.0

Julie, these are new details. So what do you make about this evolution of a response from the president?

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