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Amanpour

How Trump 2.0 is Handling Threat from China

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

After a long-awaited phone call between President Trump and President Xi Jinping and as Trump tries to iron out the kinks of his trade war with China, Ely Ratner,  Biden's Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Indo-Pacific with close ties to Trump's Pentagon, argues that America needs a new NATO-like defense pact in Asia to counter the growing threat from Beijing. Plus, award-winning author and professor Ibram X. Kendi talks to Bianna about his new biography for young readers exploring the complex nature of Malcom X's legacy. Also, CNN's Mike Valerio breaks down what South Korea's new leader Lee Jae-myung means for the country's democracy following its martial law crisis, and the implications of this election for its relations with the United States and the region. Then, investigative Russian journalists Irina Borogan and Andrei Soldatov, now living in exile, discuss their new book, "Our Dear Friends in Moscow," about how their former colleagues in the Russian press came to enable Vladimir Putin's regime. From the archives, decades after allied forces landed on the beaches of Normandy to rid Western Europe of Nazi control, history buff and World War Two chronicler Tom Hanks on why the stories of D-Day's heroic generation must be told. As theatre's leading men and reigning divas head to the Tony Awards this weekend, one of the nominees, David Yazbek speaks to Bianna Golodryga about his play, "Dead Outlaw."  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to the Amman Four Hour.

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Here's where we're headed this week.

1:13.1

Amid a rising trade war, will the U.S. lead when it comes to China or let Beijing shape the region's future.

1:20.1

The reality is the United States is facing a generational challenge from China.

1:24.6

Eli Ratner, Joe Biden's Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Indo-Pacific,

1:29.1

weighs in. Then, Malcolm lives. He loved fighting for justice. He loved lamb chops. He loved a good

1:36.4

laugh, but he really loved a good book. Award-winning author Ibram X. Kendi tells me why he's

1:42.2

writing about Malcolm X's legacy for a new generation.

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And...

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It is time to replace hatred and confrontation with coexistence, reconciliation and solidarity.

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A turning point in South Korea. After months of chaos, the country elects a new leader.

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Plus, our dear friends in Moscow.

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