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Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

How Toxic Masculinity and Online Spaces Are Reshaping Boyhood

Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Jo Piazza, Influence Inc.

Society & Culture, Parenting, Kids & Family, Personal Journals, Technology

4.3787 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Online spaces and societal expectations are radicalizing young boys at an alarming rate. The haunting TV drama "Adolescence" depicts a 13-year-old boy arrested for murdering a female classmate—a fictional story that reflects real concerns about how toxic internet communities are shaping vulnerable minds. Reverend Angela Denker, author of "Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood," offers a nuanced perspective on two painful truths: white boys and men are both dangerous and struggling. While making up the majority of mass shooters in America, they also die by suicide at higher rates than any other group. The vacuum of positive masculine content in progressive spaces has pushed boys toward extremist corners of the internet like Andrew Tate's rhetoric. As both a pastor and mother of two boys, Denker provides insights into how Christian fundamentalism, the internet, and traditionalist gender roles contribute to male insecurity and violence. She challenges listeners to see themselves in destructive patterns to begin healing and offers hope through stories of men who have escaped radicalization. This isn't just about danger and struggle—it's about hope and solutions for creating healthier masculine identities for the next generation. Get Disciples of White Jesus here. Join our newsletter community here. Pre-order EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The new streaming show Adolescence opens with a haunting scene, especially if you're a parent.

0:13.0

A 13-year-old boy, Jamie, is arrested for the murder of his female classmate.

0:17.9

And that is not a spoiler. That is in the very beginning of the show.

0:22.2

As the story unfolds, it becomes very clear that this is not just a crime drama. The show,

0:28.7

all four episodes, are a chilling exploration of how toxic online spaces and societal expectations

0:34.9

of masculinity can and will radicalize vulnerable young boys.

0:42.0

Jamie's descent into violence is shaped by relentless bullying, isolation, and the dark pull of extremist

0:48.9

internet communities. This is a show and a story that asks all of us to confront some really hard questions.

0:57.8

What happens when boys are taught to suppress their emotions, when their pain is ignored,

1:02.2

and when the digital world offers them a blueprint to be a man that we're not showing them in any other places?

1:10.3

Today we're getting into all of this with a friend of mine,

1:12.9

Reverend Angela Denker. Angela is the author of Disciples of White Jesus for the Radicalization

1:19.1

of American Boyhood. Her book begins with two stark truths. White boys and men are dangerous,

1:26.9

and white boys and men are struggling. These statements are both

1:31.3

very true and also both painfully accurate. White men do make up the majority of mass shooters in America,

1:38.7

but they also die by suicide at higher rates than any other group. From Andrew takes toxic rhetoric to the unregulated

1:46.3

forums that prey on boys like James and adolescents, we are unpacking how digital toxic masculinity

1:52.4

is reshaping boyhood today. And not just that, we are also talking about how we're going to stop

1:58.0

it, because we are solution people here. Okay?

2:01.3

Middle-aged women are going to change the world. This is a conversation about danger and struggle,

2:07.6

but I swear to God it is also about hope. Because if we can understand what's happening to our boys,

2:13.8

that is when we can begin to change it.

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