Lovers! Happy Sex at Work Monday. I am Wiley and today's sex related work stories are from a film

producer turned sex tech entrepreneur and I will say I was a skeptic initially I was like how

does having a separate app for sex to help people be more open and now I'm a

total convert you've heard me

happily and committedly complaining for months since I started this

podcast that I scare people away, whether it's a pacing issue, like I moved too fast

for them or I'm into so many weird things they get

freaked out deal Elizabeth Dell has helped me understand why outsourcing the

framework you know in the frameworks to a third party is really helpful for getting to know someone, a new person,

especially in vulnerable ways.

And I can see how it would remove this feeling I often have.

I was like, oh, you want me to come up with the entire experience for us? Okay. Our guest today is the

founder and CEO of Amaris, the Intimacy App for Partners, i.e. a sexting app.

Welcome Elizabeth Dell.

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.

I'm so excited to have you. Can you start off by telling us your sex at work origin story?

What is your work like and what led you to this sex-related career?

I'm actually a film producer.

I've spent the last 15 plus years making film and content,

and I was kind of in the midst of making a whole bunch of

indie feature films and then of course the pandemic happened and all of that went on

a big pause I'm also someone who at the same time of that

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