How to Write an Anti-Hero

Otherppl with Brad Listi

Brad Listi

Arts, Society & Culture, Books

4.8 • 554 Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2023

⏱️ 101 minutes

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A new 'Craftwork' episode, all about anti-heroes. My guest is Tod Goldberg, author of the novel Gangsters Don't Die, available from Counterpoint Press. Goldberg is the author of more than a dozen books, including Gangsterland, a finalist for the Hammett Prize; Gangster Nation; and The Low Desert: Gangster Stories, named a Southwest Book of the Year and a finalist for several literary prizes. He lives in Indio, California, where he directs the low-residency MFA in creative writing and writing for the performing arts at the University of California, Riverside. *** Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly literary podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, iHeart Radio, etc. Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter. Support the show on Patreon Merch @otherppl Instagram YouTube TikTok Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:32.8	welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy. I'm in Los Angeles. Nice to be with you. Thank you for tuning in.
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0:47.3	podcast on social media, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, and Blue Sky. So today I'm going to be doing another craftwork episode.
0:56.7	I've been doing these in recent weeks.
0:59.2	If you are a regular listener, then you are familiar.
1:02.6	Craftwork episodes deal with a specific aspect of the craft of writing or the business of publishing.
1:09.8	And today I'm going to be doing a craftwork talk with author
1:13.9	Todd Goldberg and we're going to be discussing how to write an anti-hero. Todd Goldberg has a
1:21.5	brand new novel out. It is called Gangsters Don't Die. It is the third and final installment in a trilogy of gangster fiction that he has written
1:32.4	featuring a wonderful and wonderfully inventive anti-hero, the gangster slash rabbi, Sal Cooper
1:39.9	team.
1:41.4	So in today's conversation, Todd Goldberg and I are going to be talking about how to create complex protagonists, complex characters who are morally and ethically compromised in some way, but who are also sympathetic to readers, right?
1:58.9	Anti-heroes are the kinds of characters we hate to love, or maybe we love to love them.
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