you're learning by failing.

You're learning the trial and error, you're finding your voice.

And I think the problem with the first six books

is I didn't have my voice.

Welcome to Noah Kagan presents.

What up everyone, it's your boy hot chocolate, aka Rabbi Can't Lose, aka Noah Kagan.

In today's episode, I got the chance to have a conversation with Pierce Brown

This guy is the author of Red Rising and if you have not read this book go out and get it right now and the conversation was how the hell do you make a super

super popular fantasy fiction book and what you don't want to hear is that it took

him six years of no success. What you don't want to hear is that he wrote a

ton of books that no one ever read. What you don't want to hear is that he wrote a ton of books that no one ever read.

What you don't want to hear is that like it takes a lot, a lot of hard work, but there was some really, really interesting gems.

How was he actually able to finally write the book that became a bestseller in only a month and a half.

We talk about that, we talk about imposter syndrome and King's syndrome, which I've actually

never heard about, we discuss how much coffee this guy actually drinks in a day and a bunch more. I really enjoy this

episode. Enjoy.

So a lot of caffeine. And then so not as many caffeine these days though though just like three to five

expresses a day something like that?

You know it all depends what I'm doing if I'm in the house writing or working it always

is more you know how it is. Sometimes you have to like nurse yourself into discipline.

What do you mean by that? I mean in terms of working, you're basically, I mean half the reason we drink coffee probably even more

than that is the atmospheric effect it has in us because it's like you know it's basically

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