meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

How to Write a Behavior Contract: Session 188 with Jill Dardig and Bill Heward

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8648 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2022

⏱️ 97 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

This was a fun one for sure. In Session 188, I chatted with Drs. Jill Dardig and Bill Heward about a whole host of topics, including their new book, Let's Make a Contract: A positive way to change your child's behavior

In this conversation, we covered:

  • How Jill and Bill discovered Behavior Analysis, especially at a time when it wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now.
  • How they of course met each other (yes, there is a love story here).
  • Why they wrote an earlier iteration of this book titled, Sign Here: A contracting book for children and their parents.
  • The success Jill and Bill had in getting their works translated in various languages, and distributed to countries across the globe.
  • The power of storytelling.
  • The basics of behavioral contracting. 
  • Special circumstances that make contracting challenging, and what to do about them.
  • What to make of the "open economy" of today's screen-based reinforcers.
  • Directions for future research in this area.
  • Advice for the newly minted.
  • Their hopes for the future of ABA. 

This bullet list of course could go on and on. There are so many storylines in this conversation, from the history of ABA, to dissemination across cultures and languages, to the power of storytelling, to parenting, and so much more. I think there is something in this episode for everyone (note: we get to the actual mechanics of behavioral contracting about 1/2 to 2/3 the way into the conversation). Bill and Jill more generally offer some great parenting strategies in their description of the contracting process.

We discussed some of the following resources in this episode:

Session 188 is brought to you with support from:

  • HRIC Recruiting. Barb Voss has been placing BCBAs in permanent positions throughout the US for just about a decade, and has been in the business more generally for 30 years. When you work with HRIC, you work directly with Barb, thereby accessing highly personalized service. So if you're about to graduate, you're looking for a change of pace, or you just want to know if the grass really is greener on the other side, head over to HRIColorado.com to schedule a confidential chat right away.
  • Behavior University. Their mission is to provide university quality professional development for the busy Behavior Analyst. Learn about their CEU offerings, including their brand new 8-hour Supervision Course, as well as their RBT offerings over at behavioruniversity.com/observations.
  • The University of Cincinnati Online. UC Online designed a Master of Education in Behavior Analysis program that is 100% online and asynchronous, meaning you log on when it works for you. Want to learn more? Go to online.uc.edu and click the “request info” button.

Also:

  • Check out the BOP Patreon Tiers if you want an ad-free feed that includes occasional bonus content!
  • Need CEUs on the go? Check out the podcasts that are available for BACB Continuing Education.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hey, everyone, welcome to session one or 88 of the behavioral observations podcast.

0:03.8

In today's episode, I am joined by Dr. Jill Dardig and Bill Heward.

0:08.3

We talk about a whole host of things, including their new book, Let's Make a Contract,

0:11.8

a positive way to change your child's behavior.

0:14.9

Like I said, we talked about a whole host of topics, including the following,

0:19.1

how Bill and Jill discovered behavior analysis, especially at a time

0:23.4

when it wasn't nearly as ubiquitous as it is now. We talk about how they met each other,

0:28.4

and so spoiler alert, there's a little bit of a love story involved here. We talk about the

0:34.3

earlier iteration of this book titled Sign Here, a contracting book for

0:38.4

children and their parents, and the success that they had in getting this work, as well as,

0:43.7

let's make a contract translated in various languages and distributing these books across

0:48.4

countries all over the globe. It's a real great story of dissemination. We talk about the power of storytelling.

0:56.5

And of course, we go over the basics of behavioral contracting. And then we talk about

1:01.3

special circumstances that make contracting challenging to do and what to do about that,

1:06.8

what to make of the open economy of today's screen-based reinforcers, the directions for future

1:13.0

research in the area of contracting, advice for the newly minted, and their hopes for the future

1:19.7

of applied behavior analysis.

1:23.2

This bullet list, of course, that I just rattled off could go on and on.

1:26.4

There's many storylines in this conversation from the history of ABA to dissemination

1:31.4

across cultures and languages, et cetera.

1:34.5

So I think there's something in this episode for just about everybody.

1:39.9

Just as a programming note or housekeeping note, I should mention that we get to the actual

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Matt Cicoria, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Matt Cicoria and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.