It's right for us to grieve what is that.

That is right.

And the reason grief is a gift is because there's not another reaction

that feels right.

It is cathartic.

It helps us.

It even heals us to cry. like there's something about tears that actually

heels parts of our brain and releases pent up toxins and things so this is the way it's supposed to go. It's just we fight it so hard and we want it to

fit in a plan and a way that makes sense. You're listening to She, with Jordan Lee Dooley, a personal development

podcast for the Everyday Woman.

Come invited, leave ignited. Here's your host, Jordan Lee Dooley. Hey, hey Jenny, welcome back to the show. I think this is your second or third time on the show. I don't know if I even remember but we've had some really good conversation so welcome back. I'm so excited to have you.

I always love talking to you. I love talking to you as well. Thanks for having. Well okay so for those who may not know you or if they're just getting introduced to you, can you just share a little of your background and what led you to write your newest book,

Untangle your emotions, which love that title, by the way, it's so good.

Thanks.

So yeah, my name's Jenny Allen and I have four kids and my husband I live in

Dallas Texas and life is really fun and full and happy and I lead an organization called If Gathering and we create events and experiences for people

to encounter God.

And the last book I wrote really because I was in this little small group, I mean therapy group kind of,

it was a counselor, there was a counselor in it and several of my good friends.

And I know that sounds kind of weird if you don't know about group therapy, but it really was was and I was weird to me too probably when I first started going

but it changed my life like they they had us talk about our feelings and I'm more of a fixer than I am a feeler and I've written a

book called Get Out of Your Head a few years earlier and it was very much up my alley that we would

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