How To Train Your Brain Like A Muscle: Mental Fitness SECRETS (& A Headband That Makes You Smarter!) with Ariel Garten of Muse
Boundless Life
Ben Greenfield
4.6 • 5.3K Ratings
🗓️ 27 November 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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My guest on this podcast is Ariel Garten, the founder of InteraXon, maker of Muse. Ariel studied neuroscience at the University of Toronto and worked in labs at Toronto’s Krembil Neuroscience Centre, researching Parkinson’s disease and hippocampal neurogenesis. No mere science nerd, Ariel is a fashion designer whose clothing opened Toronto Fashion Week in 2003 and has had her work displayed at the Art Gallery of Ontario. Ariel’s distinctive combination of science and art is integral to the design of Muse and to InteraXon’s unique approach to brain sensing technology.
As a neuroscientist and former psychotherapist, Ariel Garten witnessed firsthand the struggles many face with mental health and the search for effective, accessible solutions. Inspired to make a real difference, she channeled her expertise into co-founding Muse, a healthtech startup aimed at revolutionizing brain health through technology.
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Ben Greenfield, and on this episode of the Boundless Life podcast, we have a very cool exercise inside of the Muse app where you're doing neurofeedback to actually train and upregulate the delivery of oxygen to your prefrontal cortex. |
| 0:16.4 | Wow. |
| 0:17.2 | Yeah, it's super amazing. |
| 0:19.1 | Welcome to the Boundless Life with me, your host, Ben Greenfield. |
| 0:23.5 | I'm a personal trainer, exercise physiologist, and nutritionist, |
| 0:26.9 | and I'm passionate about helping you discover unparalleled levels of health, fitness, longevity, and beyond. |
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