How to threaten Alabama, Aaron Murray on UGA QB battle, his SEC QB1 & Stetson drama (ep. 534)
The OG Kickoff w/ Connor and Will
Connor O'Gara
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🗓️ 3 February 2023
⏱️ 84 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What's going on? This is the starting on South Park. Yes, I am kind of Gura will great show lined up. We are going to talk about what it actually means to threaten Bama and why there's now a unique threat that isn't Georgia. |
| 0:22.0 | And it's one that a certain will augment may or may not have some thoughts on we'll get to that. Aaron Murray is going to join us a little bit. We're going to talk some quarterback things, Georgia things, and then we're going to close with SEC quarterbacks in the NFL draft in bold and brash a question. |
| 0:41.0 | What does it take to actually threaten Bama is in like Bama the team without two coordinators who casually just signed yet another number one recruiting class, even though the dynasty is totally dead might have missed it on signing day. |
| 0:55.0 | Right there, what you just have never thought of the fact that they pulled in a number of recruit class was zero coordinators is so funny because it's like, yeah, whatever we're going to do, it's going to work. We don't even care who it's going to be get in here, dude, you know, it's going to. |
| 1:06.0 | They had two coordinators in flux because I realized like, all right, the hey was already in the barn with with their class and everything, but their coordinators were very much in flux, like in December of what's going to be the next step. And it was pretty it was pretty widely reported of what Bill O'Brien was going to possibly be leaving for with the. |
| 1:24.9 | Patriots and we didn't know necessarily about the peak holding stuff, but you get what I'm saying, and it's negative recruitment right it's what other teams would be able to say you know, peak holdings out the door, you know, like, look, because if you knew it, they knew it. |
| 1:35.1 | So that's all I'm saying is they were able to just say, all right, whatever. Exactly. And that is why this this juggernaut is unbelievable and something that Tom Lugenbo was talking about with my friends over at the next round was that if anybody else was pulling off a class like this that Bama just had, we'd be freaking out about it. |
| 1:52.9 | But because it's Bama, we're just led to assume, okay, no big deal. This is just kind of what they do. And I don't even really need to get into the recruiting stuff today, but we will because it is a part of this the overarching question that I want to be able to answer. What does it take to threaten Bama 15 years into this thing? It's kind of amazing to run into people who still don't understand why their team isn't about to overtake Bama or why is Bama so good year after year. |
| 2:20.5 | I don't think there's any debate that Georgia has finally given us the model. And I say that knowing that they only beat them once. I think that's worth understanding, keep that in perspective. I don't want to upset too many Bama fans just by saying that because we know that just beating Bama once doesn't necessarily mean that you're all the sudden threatening them and you're taking away everything that they had, but the caveats that we need to narrow it down to are these three things will. |
| 2:45.1 | And let's also make sure that we understand what it is to threaten that's that's something I was about to say they weren't feeling like yeah, it's not scary. It is, it is scary. That means beat them multiple years in a row to win the division or win the conference and or win the conference, right. |
| 3:00.4 | You can't just be a team who's, you know, the seven and five and you get a one off here and there, actually threaten them. Beat them and then get what they want. That's the goal. |
| 3:10.3 | It appears that's going to change with the division dynamics, once Texas and Oklahoma joined the conference, hopefully in 2024, but at least by 2025. |
| 3:19.9 | That's going to just change the overall dynamic of who can threaten Bama on a yearly basis. What does that look like and and we're going to have the expanded playoff and all those different things. So the conversation's going to shift, but we should get out ahead of it a little bit. |
| 3:34.9 | And we do this thing every time a new team beats Bama, it's assumed that that team is going to become a threat, even though he freezes old missquads and 2011 and 2010 as well. LSU, there's still the only teams to beat Sabin in consecutive years. |
| 3:53.1 | The irony is that Ole Miss has lost seven straight to Bama since then and LSU won those two games in 2010 2011 and then of course lost a consecutive games to Alabama. |
| 4:03.9 | I don't even do in the last four though. All right. That's key. That's great point. Well, that's all that matters. Why did that happen because they checked two of those three boxes to be a threat to Bama, you must, you must check all three boxes here are boxes. |
| 4:22.9 | Top five talent. That's based on two four seven sports talent composite rankings, which have been tracks since 2015. So it's a little bit of a gray area with the first part of the Bama dynasty, but you can kind of get a sense of that. |
| 4:34.7 | If you go back and look at the recruiting like rankings who stacking top five classes, all those things. You also need the right offensive scheme that makes Alabama defend the entire field. |
| 4:45.2 | And this is the caveat that gets a little bit lost in the shuffle when we get ahead of our skis. You need a coach with a proven track record. |
| 4:54.4 | Difficult because usually beating Bama is the thing that gives you a proven track record and then we kind of jump again with that, but it's different. And here's why those mid 2010 Ole Miss teams had not top five talent. |
| 5:08.1 | They definitely didn't have top five talent, but they still had as many five stars on the roster as Ohio State at that time, which is kind of crazy to look back and think about that. |
| 5:16.0 | They had the right offensive scheme under Hugh Freeze and they forced Bama to defend the entire field, but they didn't have a coach for the proven track record as in how do you handle success. |
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