How to talk to guerillas

Lives Less Ordinary

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.6 • 814 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Leyner Palacios grew up around volatile armed groups, so he learned to negotiate with them.

He comes from a remote forested area called Bojaya, where clusters of small villages are spread along isolated waterways. Leyner's community had to share the rivers and forests with outsiders, armed groups like the Farc and the paramilitaries, who were locked into a decades-old conflict. As a child, Leyner learned to constantly navigate checkpoints manned by volatile armed people, and he showed a talent for negotation and mediation. As the conflict heated up, and with his community under siege, these skills would become more useful than ever.

Music from the 'Cantadoras de Pogue' was recorded by the Centro de Estudios Afrodiaspóricos - https://www.icesi.edu.co/vocesderesistencia/e/vol-1-cantadoras-de-pogue.php

Presenter: Asya Fouks Producer: Harry Graham Translation: Jorge Caraballo Sound design: Joe Munday Editor: Munazza Khan

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0:55.2	I used many tactics I used many tactics to stay alive they would get you up the boat
1:09.5	and they would circle you they would surround you four or six paramilitaries and they would get you off the boat and they would circle you.
1:11.0	They would surround you four or six paramilitaries.
1:14.1	And they would put you in the middle of that circle in a small chair.
1:21.0	Of course, when you're surrounded by paramilitaries armed people, you would feel completely afraid. You knew what they were doing. You
1:29.1	knew that they were killing everyone. In the middle of that circle, people used to get nervous,
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