This is the Potter's Cast.

A podcast home for Potters Everywhere.

It's a community of Potters dedicated to grow their business.

We're picking up where the art degree ends.

I'm your host, Paul Blaze.

Hello and welcome to episode number 571 of the Potters' cast.

I'm so stoked.

We are in Halloween week.

What?

That's a cool week to be in.

It's a cool week because we have our Halloween show coming out in a couple of days.

But this day, today right now, we are not doing the Halloween show.

We've got a great potter from South Africa coming on the show.

And Leon is, well, okay, I'm going to tell you his last name.

I'm going to have our time to say Van de Merivah.

I think that's how we say it.

Leon van demerva, I think.

But we'll hear him pronounce it correctly because I think I'm not quite doing it just right.

But regardless of whether I can say his name correctly, I can tell you this, he's an awesome potter.

He makes beautiful work.

And the great thing about this conversation is that we end up talking about how to talk to customers

about money we at least in well in my culture it tends to be a little bit hard to get to

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