So you don't have to be nervous around them.

It's like they're your, think of them as a potential fan club,

like they're a little fan club and they're there to see you

and you're the star of the show and you get to lead the conversation, not the other way round, but I think often we feel like,

oh, I'll just stand here and someone will come up to me and then I'll see what they ask me. Hello and

generous and humorous conversations that will feed your creative soul

and get you thinking with me Alice Sheridan and me Louise Fletcher.

Can I just say, can I just say I want to give us both a giant pat on the back for even being here. I've got a horrible cold and I feel like death. You have had a horrible week and you don't feel that great and yet here we are showing up and doing something which nobody would smack us,

nobody would fire us if we didn't do, but we've done it anyway, so I'm proud of us.

Let's just give ourselves a path on the back for that first of all.

Yeah we nearly postponed it we were nearly like we'll do this later and then we said actually

we said does it matter we'll just turn it up and and say we had a bit of a pants week so there we go we've had a bit of a pants week but

For Americans by the way I remember when I was living in America and I read something from the UK and it said

pants and I was like what on earth is that I didn't I couldn't understand the context of

pants yeah pants means rubbish everybody in other countries. I don't know where it came from as a kind of slang word for not a good thing. Yeah, because it's not even pant, you know, even once you get past pamps is not trousers pances underwear even though it's not really something you'd say but yeah I quite like it I've had a

pants week yeah just makes it feel a little bit more silly rubbish rather than...

Yes, it's not as depressing a word for something negative. That's why I like it. It feels a bit...

But rather than saying bloody

awful week and I'm exhausted yeah it feels nice yeah so anyway we're here

there you go we're having a giggle.

So apart from that then, we're gonna be talking a little bit about

words, words that we use with and around our art and partly inspired by a question but also by something that is my

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