How to Talk About God (ft. Hans Boersma)

First Things Podcast

First Things

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 699 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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In this episode, Hans Boersma joins Rusty Reno on The Editor's Desk to talk about his recent essay, "Modernity and God-Talk," from the November 2025 issue of the magazine.

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0:30.3	Hello, welcome to the editor's desk.
0:32.8	This is the podcast where we take a closer look at the essays and articles in the latest print issue of
0:38.4	First Things Magazine. I'm Rusty Reno on the editor of First Things Magazine, and I'm here
0:43.7	with you today at the editor's desk.
0:49.7	I'd like to welcome Hans Borsma to the First Things podcast, and we're going to talk today
0:56.8	about his piece in the November 2025 issue, Darnity and God Talk. Real theology. Welcome to the podcast,
1:05.2	Hans. Thank you very much. It's a joy being with you. Yeah, real theology. Yeah, God. How do we think about God?
1:12.9	Pretty fundamental question, isn't it?
1:14.7	Certainly is.
1:15.4	I hadn't heard the subtitle of the piece before.
1:17.6	It's a great one.
1:19.3	And absolutely, it's at the heart of things.
1:22.3	Yes.
1:23.0	Well, let's start with the problem,
1:25.6	because your piece gets us going on this question about how to talk about
1:29.7	God with observations about modern. Yes, and what I'm essentially plugging into in connection with
1:38.6	the God talk that the article discusses. What I'm plugging into is the question of how come the God
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