How to Take Direct Action Against Hate: Daryl Davis and Ryan Lo'Ree

Let's Find Common Ground

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🗓️ 8 July 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What steps are needed to cause people to leave white supremacist and other hate groups of their own volition? In this deeply personal podcast episode, we explore the tactics and commitment needed to be successful in this work. Daryl Davis, an award-winning Black musician, race reconciliator and renowned lecturer, has used the power of human connection to convince hundreds of people to leave white supremacist groups. His fellow guest, Ryan Lo’Ree, a former white supremacist, is now an interventionist working to deradicalize people who have been lured into right and left-wing extremism. These two men, who came from very different backgrounds and belief systems, discuss their life experiences, lessons learned in their work, and what motivates them to convince people to change their convictions. Watch the recording of the Common Ground webinar with Daryl and Ryan: “Turning Racism and Extremism into Hope and Healing.” Listen to our 2020 podcast with Daryl: “KKKrossing the Divide – A Black Man Talks With White Supremacists.” Read Nicholas Kristof’s profile of Daryl in The New York Times— “How Can You Hate Me If You Don’t Even Know Me?”

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0:00.0	How do you get people to leave white supremacist and other hate groups?
0:05.0	In this deeply personal episode,
0:07.0	we explore the tactics and commitment needed to be successful in this challenging work.
0:17.0	This is Let's Fine Common Ground. I'm Ashley Melntite.
0:21.0	I'm Richard Davies.
0:23.0	Our guests are Darryl Davis, an award-winning black musician,
0:27.0	race reconsiliator and lecturer. In recent decades,
0:30.0	Darryl has convinced hundreds of people to leave white supremacist groups.
0:35.0	Ryan LaRie also joins us.
0:37.0	A former white supremacist, he's now an interventionist,
0:40.0	working to help those who decided to leave right and left-wing extremism.
0:45.0	These two men, who come from very different backgrounds and belief systems,
0:49.0	discuss their life experiences, lessons learned in their work,
0:53.0	and what motivates them to convince people to change their convictions.
0:58.0	This episode is an exclusive follow-up to the Common Ground Committee live webinar
1:03.0	with Darryl and Ryan that was recorded in June.
1:07.0	In our podcast interview, we asked Ryan first,
1:10.0	how did he pull away from hate and leave the white supremacist group that he joined as a young man?
1:16.0	So, with me, I had a very, very supportive family.
1:20.0	I was incarcerated for a crime that I committed while I was with the hate group.
1:25.0	We were stealing, doing other things to try to finance what we were doing
1:29.0	within the organization, and I got caught.
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