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How To! with Mike Pesca

How To Take Charge of Home Repair (with Sam Sanders and Mercury Stardust)

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In the second half of How To!'s wide-ranging conversation about home improvement, gender, sexuality, and much more, journalist Sam Sanders and author Mercury Stardust (aka The Trans Handy Ma'am) talk with co-host Carvell Wallace about a truly daunting idea: skipping the contractors—and doing the work yourself.

This episode is available to Slate Plus members now. Non-members will be able to listen on Nov. 11, 2025. If you missed the first half of this conversation, check out How To Talk to Contractors (With Sam Sanders and Mercury Stardust).

Mercury's latest book is Safe and Sound: A Renter-Friendly Guide to Home Repair. And, check out the latest episodes of The Sam Sanders Show.

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The show is produced by Rosemary Belson and Sophie Summergrad. Our technical director is Merritt Jacob and our supervising producer is Joel Meyer.

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0:00.0

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0:22.6

Talk about generational talent.

0:23.7

Coming to headphones near you on April 17th with a first guest you won't want to miss. Available wherever you get your podcasts. There's just so many things I've put off. Like I have an electric car. Right. I need to have the high speed charger put on the side of the house. but I think it requires the running of a line to do a thing. I don't even know how to tell the person that would do it what I need, right? Yeah, no, I relate to this. Electricity always freaks me out. I try to rewire lamp ones on some, I can do with shit and I ended up like almost blowing up my living room you know so like

0:55.1

you know like I have queer audacity to a point but then I don't welcome to how to I'm Carvelle

1:01.7

Wallace imagine that you've hired a contractor to paint a room in your house and it looks great the

1:09.0

color is perfect the room is transformed exactly as you thought it would be.

1:13.3

And the experience with the contractor went pretty well,

1:16.3

probably because you listened to last week's episode.

1:18.6

So you're feeling pretty good.

1:20.7

That is until it's time to pay.

1:24.1

And as you dip into your precious and dwindling savings account to cut the check, you find

1:28.4

yourself thinking, maybe I should have done this myself. Could I have? Should I have? Do I have the

1:35.5

know-how? Or is that a ridiculous idea? Well, that's exactly the question that has been taunting

1:41.5

our guest from last week, journalist Sam Sanders.

1:45.2

I got some of the walls repainted in the backhouse, and for a while I was like,

1:49.4

I could paint it myself, but I know myself. I would do it badly and hate myself for doing it badly,

1:57.6

and then bring in someone else to fix it.

2:02.1

If you heard our previous episode, you know that Sam does not consider himself very handy,

2:07.2

but he recently bought his first home.

2:10.1

He wants to fix it up, but he doesn't quite know where to start.

2:13.5

So we brought in an expert, Mercury Stardust, a handy person, author, and TikTok star who builds herself as the trans handyman.

2:23.0

In that first part of our conversation, Mercury shared all kinds of helpful advice about practical things like how to find contractors.

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