It's great to have back on the program today, Steve Schmidt, renowned American political

strategist, commentator, founder of the warning, a popular newsletter podcast and YouTube channel.

Well, Steve, I don't know where to start.

I mean, I think one place is one of the reactions I'm now seeing from some on the Trump supporting right is to say that

a lot of our worst fears are kind of hyperbolic and often they will say, you know, the

first term didn't actually see all of the things we worried would happen and then therefore

this term won't either.

You put out videos before the election, including Steve Schmidt explains why Donald Trump

will become the next Hitler if he wins.

Trump will be the end of America.

Talk to us.

Is there a hyperbolic or sensational element to that? Or are those your literal beliefs?

What I said in the immediate aftermath of the election is that I stand by everything that

I have said about Donald Trump over nine years.

I am right about who he is. Donald Trump campaigned as a fascist. The campaign was repugnant,

race baiting, dishonorable. And here's reality. Seventy four million of us voted against it.

We said, no.

We have representation in this country.

We have rights in this country, including the right to oppose, the right to assert conscience, to dissent, and to say no.

A couple more million people voted for Donald Trump, and we can talk about that.

Now, what I did say is I'm going to be very clear and precise with regard to my use of language.

Until he governs as a fascist, I will not say that Donald Trump is governing as a fascist.

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