It's the 10% Happier Podcast.

I'm Dan Harris.

Hello, everybody. How we doing?

For many of you, these may be extremely challenging times to consume the news.

There's what's going on in Washington. There's overseas conflict and always the background hum of climate change, which makes natural disasters like the wildfires in L.A. last month increasingly likely.

Today we're going to talk to CNN's Bill Weir about how to survive the news.

Bill covers climate for CNN. You may have actually seen him on the front lines of the wildfires in L.A. last month.

He's also written a book about how we can be both realistic about climate change but also resilient. That book is called

The World as We Know It Can Be. I've known Bill for nearly 20 years, maybe more. We're friends,

but we've also been colleagues. We work together at ABC News, where he was a journalist and anchor for a

decade before switching over to CNN.

I like Bill a lot personally, but I've also long been in awe of his skill as a reporter and storyteller

and now as a node of sanity on the supremely vexing subject of climate, which can send many of us

into either denial or despair. In this conversation, we talk about

how a hotter Earth is increasingly changing our lives, why some experts say the climate issue is

half physics, half psychology, how to work with feelings like rage and despair, why so many of us

look away from the climate crisis, why acceptance is not surrender, and the

utility of classic psychological frameworks, including Maslow's hierarchy of needs and Elizabeth

Kubler-Ross's five stages of grief. Bill Weir coming up right after this.

Bill Weir, welcome to the show.

Dan Harris.

I'm so nervous about this, I got to say.

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