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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

How to Stop Fighting with Your Family About Clutter

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Lemonada Media

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 13.2K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 25 April 2026

ā±ļø 38 minutes

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Summary

We talk about why clutter causes so much conflict at home—and how thinking about Clutter-Blindness, the Endowment Effect, and the Four Tendencies can help you handle it more effectively. Plus, practical strategies for living with a messy family member and saying goodbye to sentimental clutter. Resources & links related to this episode: Visit my Organization Hub for 9 practical tips for deciding what to keep Get in touch: podcast@gretchenrubin.com VisitĀ Gretchen's websiteĀ to learn more about Gretchen's best-selling books, products from The Happiness Project Collection, and theĀ HappierĀ app. Find the transcript for this episode on the episode details page in the Apple Podcasts app.Ā  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, we're here for more happier, a podcast where we get happier. It's the weekend. It's the looser vibe. Hey, Elizabeth. Hi, Gritch. In the decade, we've been doing this podcast together. One of the most common happiness stumbling blocks we hear about is clutter-related conflict. One person in a home feels overwhelmed by the state of

1:13.4

their surroundings. The other person may not even see the clutter. It can be very frustrating,

1:18.4

but over time, we have discovered some very practical ways to deal with it. So today, we're

1:24.7

revisiting our most useful ideas on clutter conflict, not easy to say,

1:29.3

starting with some Try This At Home tips that you can use this week.

1:36.9

Elizabeth, this week our Try This at Home tip is to confront a clutter-related conflict in a relationship. Because if you live with other people or work

1:47.4

with other people, there may often be a recurring source of tension related to clutter.

1:54.0

This is very, very common.

1:55.6

Yes, and I know there's tension in my relationship over clutter. So I'm one of those people.

2:01.2

Well, the first thing to point out is that there are differences among people, and that's part

2:05.9

of what leads to the conflict, which is people are very different in what level of orderliness

2:10.9

they need to feel calm and energetic. Some people have a very, very high level of where

2:16.3

they feel comfortable and other people, not so much. And then some people, like very, very high level of where they feel comfortable and other people not so much.

2:19.3

And then some people like you, Elizabeth, are truly clutterblind. Explain what it is like to be clutterblind.

2:25.6

Yeah, I just don't notice clutter. It doesn't bother me. Like when you said, is there anything, you know, that Adam does clutter-wise, it bothers you? I'm like, no,

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