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🗓️ 8 September 2025
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Ever wondered why some people move past hardships while others get stuck in them?
In this transformative conversation, Columbia professor Scott Barry Kaufman reveals the crucial difference between experiencing hardship and adopting a victim mindset, sharing research-backed strategies from his book, Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential. Learn how shifting your perspective on boredom, lowering certain life expectations, and changing simple self-talk patterns can unlock new levels of personal power and possibility.
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| 0:00.0 | So have you ever had that moment where you just kind of feel like the world or maybe in one person |
| 0:04.5 | or community was kind of conspiring against you or holding your back or keeping you stuck or trapped |
| 0:09.5 | or small, kind of like you're a victim without a whole lot of power to change things? If so, |
| 0:14.4 | you are not alone. But sometimes there is a meaningful difference between feeling trapped or |
| 0:20.7 | beaten down and the actual |
| 0:21.8 | facts of our experience. And that's at the heart of today's conversation about the surprising |
| 0:27.3 | difference between being a victim and living with what psychology now calls a victim mindset |
| 0:31.5 | and what we can do about it. Think about those moments when you catch yourself feeling |
| 0:36.6 | that the world is against you, |
| 0:37.6 | like just every circumstance is a conspiracy to hold you back. What if that feeling itself could |
| 0:42.8 | become a signal, not of hopelessness, but of an opportunity to transform your entire |
| 0:48.4 | relationship with life's challenges? And this is not also saying put your head in the sand and ignore the reality of circumstance. |
| 0:56.4 | And what if boredom of all things could be a gateway to unlimited possibility along the way? |
| 1:01.8 | So my guest today is Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, a professor at Columbia University and one of the |
| 1:06.8 | world's most cited researchers on intelligence, creativity, and human potential, as director of the Center for Human Potential and founder of self-actualization coaching, |
| 1:15.4 | Scott has dedicated his career to understanding how we can realize our fullest potential. |
| 1:19.7 | In his latest book, Rise Above, Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential, |
| 1:24.9 | he offers a really fresh perspective on moving from victimhood |
| 1:27.9 | to empowerment. One of the things that really fascinated me in our conversation was Scott's surprising |
| 1:32.4 | take on boredom as a state of infinite possibility rather than limitation. We explore how changing |
| 1:37.8 | just one word and how you talk to yourself can dramatically shift your entire experience of daily |
| 1:43.0 | challenges. And you're going to want to hear his perspective on why lowering your expectations |
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