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Modern Love

How to Stop Asking 'Are You Mad at Me?'

Modern Love

The New York Times

Nytimes, Redemption, Society & Culture, New York Times, Love, Essay, Storytelling, Loss, Nyt

4.48.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Therapist and author Meg Josephson on how she stopped people pleasing.

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0:00.0

Love now and...

0:04.0

Love was stronger than anything.

0:07.5

I feel of love.

0:09.0

And I love you more than anything.

0:11.0

Modern love!

0:12.0

You're still love.

0:13.0

Love.

0:16.0

From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.

0:19.0

This is Modern Love.

0:20.0

Every week, we bring you stories about all the messiness of relating to other people.

0:25.2

Any time my boss would slack me, can we chat or do you have a sec?

0:31.0

Immediate sinking feeling in my stomach.

0:33.9

Oh, God.

0:35.1

It's time.

0:35.9

I'm getting fired.

0:40.3

I've done something horribly wrong and I'm about to have it. My guest today is therapist and author Meg Josephson. Meg is a new book coming out called,

0:48.0

Are You Mad at Me? It's a look at this nagging, sneaking suspicion that you've done something wrong, that you're letting everyone down.

0:56.7

Just an immediate assumption that there is an inherent flaw within ourselves.

1:03.3

Am I in trouble?

1:04.7

Is something wrong with me?

1:06.6

Am I bad?

1:07.7

Am I secretly bad?

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