How to Stay Sane and Useful In Chaos

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Everything is chaotic and overwhelming. The news is relentless. So we did the only thing that felt honest: we showed up, unprepared, and talked about how we’re actually feeling–and what helps us stay engaged, grounded, and human in this moment. In this conversation, we talk about why overwhelm is a strategy, how to stop spiraling in fear, and why real change doesn’t come from doomscrolling or waiting for a government hero–but from finding grounded leaders in our communities, organizing locally, and trusting ourselves to respond to what today is asking of us. If you’re exhausted, scared, angry, or unsure what to do next–this episode is for you. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

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0:00.0	Hi, welcome to hard things. I don't...
0:02.0	Hold on the weekend. Emphasis on hard things.
0:07.0	We can't even...
0:08.0	Was that 40?
0:09.0	We can't even.
0:10.0	Oh my God. Yeah. Just welcome to hard things.
0:14.0	Yeah.
0:15.0	The first thing I want to say is that we have no plan for today.
0:25.7	We are in that time, and I don't know, some of you might be able to relate to this where
0:31.0	any sort of intentionality or long-term planning, whatever creativity requires, which is like no hypervigilance and sitting
0:39.9	calmly is not available to us at this time. We're constantly in response mode and I'm talking
0:46.0	about what's going on in the country. Every morning feels like it's just putting out fires and we
0:50.9	are not planning a lot. So we are going to show anything.
0:54.8	I should say we we did have a plan. It's like it's the this is even more accurate of the
1:00.9	situation is that you have a plan and you're like here's what we need to talk about. Here's
1:06.7	what the people need. Here's what the thing is, and then 30 minutes passes and you're faced
1:13.1	with this decision point of do you stay with the plan? Because that's what you've prepared
1:17.4	and that's what makes you feel more comfortable and that's what you for sure thought you should do.
1:21.4	But then the world seems to require something different. And so I feel like that tension is
1:26.4	even more exhausting and more real and like
1:29.1	CC marriage and parenthood and everything. It's like you put all the effort into the plan and you
1:33.8	swear to you're certain that that's going to save you. And then you get to a point and you're like,
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