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Great. Perfect.

If you're a policymaker, you're politician, and you're sitting there in front of the microphones

with all the media, and they go, okay, what should we do on Monday? Do we open the schools or keep them closed? They're not looking for, well, I'd say, a 60% the policymakers feel the need to say, this is what we absolutely must do. So never sign a zero or 100% to anything because we're fallible. Who knows? You can read biblical stories and religious literature and find some deeper truths in them. So instead of just saying, these are just myths, fake stories, taking a more respectful approach that Democrats are now, they're all a bunch of atheists, secular, you know, cat ladies, no babies, and we're going to be overrun by Islam. And even if I'm not a Christian, at least the Christians, you know, understand what Islam is up to, and they even know what a woman is, right? We have now independent journalists. So that's good. I think many sources. Checking out stories is good, but I don't trust any one of them either. I think you really need to sample multiple independent journal. What Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson, Daryl Cooper are up to? I don't know. I don't know what's worse. They know it's bull-h-and-they're doing it for clicks, and that's the financial model of their podcast. Or they don't know, and they've never read much. How concerned are you that truth will just be lost because we will be inundated with so much counter information constantly

that nobody will be able to pilfer anything true out of anything.

All right, I'm Dave Rubin, and joining me today is the founder of Skeptic Magazine and the author of the new book, Truth, what it is, how to find it, and why it still matters.

My old friend and Ruben Report returning guests, probably top five Ruben Report guests of all time, at least in appearances.

Michael Shermer, how are you, my friend?

Nice to see you, Dave. Yeah, we go all the way back to where you, you had a studio from,

who was the Roseanne Barr studio.

It's a little known fact that I used to borrow Roseanne Barr studio outside the airport in Los Angeles.

Was that the, that was the first time we ever sat down in person.

So that was about 2017.

But I had had you on the show probably fall of 2015.

You were one of the first guests of the show, and we go way back.

So I'm going to ask you the question that I ask you every time we start a show, because every time we start a show, you have a new book. I ask you the same question, which is, how many books have you written? And let's see if you even know. Okay. I think this is number 14, I think. I think. Well, see, back in the 80s, I did have a couple of cycling books. I don't count those.

You know, how to train and that kind of stuff. And my experience is doing race across America as a professional cyclist.

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