Any time I'm asked to talk about math, I don't even think I'm exaggerating when I say 95% of the time,

people literally make weird noises, like people are like, oh my, oh my god.

Like, you know, like people have like a visceral reaction and they'll be like, oh my god,

I hated math. Like, you know, do you ever notice that? Like people like, he did math.

No, Vanessa, I have no idea what you're talking about.

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I'm Caroline. I'm Kristen and that was Vanessa Vacaria, a Toronto-based educator and Caroline,

your new unofficial math therapist.

It feels like very official I would say.

But so we're talking of Vanessa today because Kristen, listen, I'm going to be real like I am carrying around some major math baggage and I'm sick of it.

Like I didn't even realize though like how much I had internalized sort of my younger days, non-math skills, until not that long ago.

Like you and I were recording a podcast in our previous podcast lives and this one sort of like unexpectedly triggering thing happened.

I remember this.

Yeah, so Kristen and I were recording an episode and I kind of randomly threw out there that like, I'm terrible at math and you and I just moved on and didn't think about it anymore.

Well, that's, I can't say that's true for our listeners.

We ended up getting a letter from a listener who was pissed at me that I had said that about my math abilities because she basically accused me of like,

furthering and worsening gender stereotypes around math and dude I was pissed.

I was so pissed because it's like, it's my problem not yours back off.

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