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I'm your host, Haley Hoffman Smith.

I'm an entrepreneur, a bestselling author, and a Forbes most influential speaker.

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So let's get started with today's big conversation.

Hi everyone and welcome back to big conversations. I'm so excited to be here with

Jam Gamble, otherwise known as Slayer of the mic and the founder of the Slate Mike program.

And we're going to be talking all about as you may

have guessed by now I'll just lay the mic so thanks for coming on jam thank you for having me

so I'd love to just get a brief background on you as a speaker did you always know that you

wanted to be a speaker or were you something like me where you were terrified to death to raise your

hand in class and then one day became a speaker? Yeah, no, I was that kid who got into a lot of trouble for talking. I talked a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. I saw a teacher of mine like last year and she remembered like 15 years later. She said, yeah, you talked a lot. I was like, I know, but look at me now. So I was that kid who talked a lot. I was that kid who raised my hand to contribute and to read out loud. But unfortunately, my teachers thought was a problem, which then my mom thought it was a problem because my teachers were complaining about it. So I didn't even know what public speaking was. I didn't know that people could be professional speakers. I didn't know any of that stuff. So it wasn't in my game plan. It all just happened really

accidentally. So what was your initial game plan? Oh, so I was that kid, like I think when I was

younger, I showed signs of being an entrepreneur. So the first thing I had was one of those V-tech

computers, whereas a toy computer, so I was

pretending to be a businesswoman. And then when I made breakfast for my family, I would like make a little menu with prices attached to it. But like, oh, that's so cute. I'm like, no, seriously, no, like it's, it's five bucks for this grandbook. Like, let's get a poppin over here. So those are little signs but I think in the beginning I want to be an actress again that

extroverted spirit. And then when I got into high school, because TLC back in the day used to be a channel you could actually learn from, not what they're putting out right now. Every year I changed what my career goal was going to be based on what TLC put up. I wonder if TLC knows that. No, they don't,

because clearly they're just doing something really ridiculous now. Okay, so entrepreneur,

actress, all in those lines. And then when was, did you ever give a talk in like middle school

or high school or college? That was your first time really on stage where you had to put

something together. My first time being a speaker, really, I would say was grade five when i was in the announcement club um that was

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